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April 7th, 2010 · 129 Comments
Incentives

It shouldn’t surprise you that I have a site called Geeks Are Sexy in my Google Reader. Usually the site serves up fun tidbits about computer-related stuff, but every once in a while it branches out. Today, the site put up an excerpt from a Q&A session with astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson. Here is some living proof that it just takes a bit of logic and not necessarily a degree in economics to understand incentives:

He has a good point- little kids often say that they want to be astronauts when they grow up, but I’ve never heard any of them state that they want to be macroeconomic researchers at Washington DC think tanks, for example. (Nope, not even me.) It’s important to remember that even if these kids don’t end up being astronauts (insert space cadet joke here), their dreams encourage them to at least go down the path of science in general, which is helpful since this sort of knowledge opens a lot of (admittedly less glamorous) doors to opportunities that these kids don’t even know exist yet. As Dr. Tyson astutely points out, if budget people are going to start talking dollars and cents, they should be careful to properly account for the spillover benefits from a “sexy” space program.

I mean, science is supposedly uncool enough already- how can we possibly get people interested if we take away their astronauts???? Perhaps the Science Cheerleader can help:

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  • 1 Alex Rodriguez // Apr 7, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    Jodi i gotta say I ALWAYS wanted to be an astronaut! I wanted to go to space camp since i knew that one existed and i NEVER got to go. this guy had it right on the money though, i grew up loving science and while i may have not done so great in it in my college years, i don’t think i would be a good economist with out my background in the hard sciences.

    side note: i own a shirt that says “science is awesome” and it has a rocket ship behind the text =D

  • 2 Matt // Apr 8, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    I’d be more impressed if scientists can efficiently gather data about the universe. That’s truly sexy and will probably involve more robots in space than people. But imagine a hot chick/dude at the controls of an advanced robot. All that cold hard steel at their control. Oooo, that revs my engine!

    I see no good reason to force taxpayers to fund space cowboyism if research can be done cheaper. After all, if the cost of research goes down, won’t more research projects get done, more data get collected and therefore on net be better than inspiring kids to want to be astronauts and fail?

    Basically, his justification for funding manned space expeditions is that it’s a great con job. I’m not convinced.

  • 3 tamara // Apr 8, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    Jodie, you’re the closest I’ve seen to an economics cheerleader. Is that good or bad? take it as a compliment. cheerleading with sarcasm though. I think is lame to say that keeping the dreams of kids is worth the spaces program.
    “to me the space program is like a big $ss a welfare program for really smart people is like this people are so smart they’re useless. we just gotta give them busy work eyy look up just f8cking look up ” the funny words of Wanda Sykes in her show sick and tired… this reminded me of it xD

  • 4 Michael L. // Apr 11, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    Jodi, wouldn’t it be better if we instead of spending money on a science program, we instead spend money on science education in schools?

    Sure NASA has some spillover benefits that may call for subsization, however, shouldn’t we get kids good science education in the first place?

  • 5 Timothy Cullen // Apr 14, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    I think Neil is on the money here; obviously we need competent teachers and adequate facilities but it really comes down to children’s desire to sit down and learn. That mostly comes from the kids themselves and the parents, but programs like NASA can really motivate children by showing them how what they study is important and relevant in ways that few other public sector or private sector endeavors cannot.

    The best teachers and nicest facilities matter little if kids don’t care enough to take advantage of them.

  • 6 tamara // Apr 15, 2010 at 2:04 am

    Timothy, all jokes aside. There has to be bigger reasons to pay for this program than the dreams of the kids… is the mission of the federal budget to act as tinkerbell? I think not. Maybe
    If the technology they’re using and developing for the NASA , then this I+D expenditure is gonna have spillover effects on health, computer, communications, nutrition sector and so on. Then I’m sold. Pay for NASA. Where’s the benefit for the public because remember every penny that goes to NASA is one less penny that goes to education, roads, traffic lights, policeman.

  • 7 Timothy Cullen // Apr 15, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    Yes there are bigger reasons to fund NASA and the “dreams of kids” but that was the subject of the post. The spillover benefits you mention for example. Further, I believe that the states should be doing most of the spending on things like police and education; and despite what those who have naive utopian views about what those sectors do will tell you, we already spend tons of money on education and would have plenty of cops on the street if so many of them weren’t chasing down non violent drug offenders.

    I understand how people can be critical of NASA and see them as waste even if I disagree, but when I see all the other things that government does with my money NASA is my least concern.

    Many public school districts spend per pupil about as much as high quality private schools, while much of that money is eaten up in union seniority pay and retirements that reward longevity; and even then private school spending isn’t necessarily the cause of their success it could just be that parents willing and able to drop that much for an education are more likely to be willing and able to advance their kid’s education.

    What it comes down to is that I have little confidence in a unionized, non competitive educational bureaucracy to spend money well enough, if it is indeed possible without going all Plato and taking kids away from their parents, to have the school compensate for some children’s bad parenting and home lives. That’s what they are trying to do, because it really doesn’t take a very talented teacher to teach kids who have all the skills they should have for their grade level and whose parents will punish them at home if they get bad grades and don’t behave. What’s hard is teaching a kid who doesn’t care about 20 minute detentions because his parents don’t care, who gets no help at home for homework, who hasn’t been taught the value of education, and has been socially promoted all his life.

    The problem in education is less on the quality side than the motivation side, and NASA can provide some of that motivation.

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